who would win

[Venom]

we were talking about this at work and i want some opinions, who would win a game between the 85 bears and the 95 cowboys?

[navus]

id prob go with the 95 cowboys

[rev]

'95 cowboys as the defense employed by the '85 bears worked so well in that it was new when implemented by buddy ryan. It was only effective for a couple more years until offenses figured out how to best adjust and exploit it -- thus you don't see the 46 used much at all anymore.

From a pure talent point of view, I have to give the edge to the Dallas offense given their balanced attack and many available weapons. I just can't see the bears linebackers and safeties being able to run with the cowboy backs and tight ends.

[Dethode]

My money's on the '88 Oilers...

[Andeh]

Im pretty sure the cowboys would shoot the bears well before they get into mauling distance

[Angelic]

Id take the cowboys.

[navus]

headlines before the game....
"cowboys player jones in trouble again"

oh wait :P

[kazz]

How about a NFL team completely comprised of 08 Lebron Jameses?

[Darkmoone]

No question 85 bears. Id kill for a forum that kept things aligned. Btw im loving this adding a video to prove my points.

Interceptions Int Yds Avg TD
Leslie Frazier 6 119 19.8 1
Dave Duerson 5 53 10.6 0
Gary Fencik 5 43 8.6 0
Mike Richardson 4 174 43.5 1
Wilber Marshall 4 23 5.8 0
Otis Wilson 3 35 11.7 1
Ken Taylor 3 28 9.3 0
Richard Dent 2 10 5.0 1
Mike Singletary 1 23 23.0 0
Ron Rivera 1 4 4.0 0


Sacks No.
Richard Dent 17.0
Otis Wilson 10.5
Steve McMichael 8.0
Dan Hampton 6.5
Wilber Marshall 6.0
William Perry 5.0
Mike Singletary 3.0
Henry Waechter 2.5
Dave Duerson 2.0
Tyrone Keys 2.0
Mike Hartenstine 1.0
Ron Rivera 0.5


NFC Central W L T % PF PA
Chicago Bears 15 1 0 .938 456 198
Green Bay Packers 8 8 0 .500 337 355
Minnesota Vikings 7 9 0 .438 346 359
Detroit Lions 7 9 0 .438 307 366
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 14 0 .125 294 448


NFC East W L T % PF PA
Dallas Cowboys 12 4 0 .750 435 291
Philadelphia Eagles 10 6 0 .625 318 338
Washington Redskins 6 10 0 .375 326 359
New York Giants 5 11 0 .313 290 340
Arizona Cardinals 4 12 0 .250 275 422

Hell even Chicago had a better offense than the cowboys, and allowed 100 fewer points. That 46 defense may have not lasted but that particular year with those players they were unstoppable. The cowboys were all emmitt smith basically.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNC3dgreaU

Yea hah, ok maybe they couldn't rap but damn how many defenses have their own rap video.

LEARN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVKkReCm1A

Look at 2:18 of this video, only in football can you get away with things you would normally get arrested in RL for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6l8VM1IcUU

[Venom]

How about a NFL team completely comprised of 08 Lebron Jameses?

would you stop posting retarded shit off topic

i would go with the cowboys tbh, no. 88 wasn't a joke, and neither was sanders or novacek, hell, even moose johnston.

[Angelic]

I wonder what the size and speed of the average O lineman and D lineman was in 85 vs 95?

Dallas would physically dominate them. I would also bet if they played Deion would score at least one TD on special teams/defense.

IMO Dallas of 95 wasn't even the best team that year. San Fran was. That was also the year Brett Favre caught on fire. I bet the 94 49ers, the 95 Cowboys and the 96 Packers all would beat Chicago. Just a different caliber of athlete 10 years later in Football. Look at the size of those Bears in that rap video....

[Sh0ck]

i enjoy all these videos being posted around here

and bearssssss

[kazz]

would you stop posting retarded shit off topic

i would go with the cowboys tbh, no. 88 wasn't a joke, and neither was sanders or novacek, hell, even moose johnston.



No problem buddy!

[Darkmoone]

I wonder what the size and speed of the average O lineman and D lineman was in 85 vs 95?

Dallas would physically dominate them. I would also bet if they played Deion would score at least one TD on special teams/defense.

IMO Dallas of 95 wasn't even the best team that year. San Fran was. That was also the year Brett Favre caught on fire. I bet the 94 49ers, the 95 Cowboys and the 96 Packers all would beat Chicago. Just a different caliber of athlete 10 years later in Football. Look at the size of those Bears in that rap video....

Rage your old enough to remember them i really cant believe you think that. The bears in the video don't even have their pads on that's why they look smaller. The level of competition and rules during the that time dallas wouldn't stand a chance. Remember back then there was hardly any rules for keeping a quarterback from super hits. You think Aikman wouldve taken a hit like this, this btw is illegal now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAY_fUOF2HA

[Angelic]

Rage your old enough to remember them i really cant believe you think that. The bears in the video don't even have their pads on that's why they look smaller. The level of competition and rules during the that time dallas wouldn't stand a chance. Remember back then there was hardly any rules for keeping a quarterback from super hits. You think Aikman wouldve taken a hit like this, this btw is illegal now.
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In 85 Ryan's defense was revolutionary......in 95 it was obsolete. Couple that with the size difference of the 85 Bears to the 95 Cowboys.

There is no way that 85 defense could stop Emmitt.

[Darkmoone]

In 85 Ryan's defense was revolutionary......in 95 it was obsolete. Couple that with the size difference of the 85 Bears to the 95 Cowboys.

There is no way that 85 defense could stop Emmitt.

Mike Singletary

Awards
1985 NFL AP Defensive Player of the Year

1985 - UPI: 1st team all-conf.
1985 - Associated Press: 1st team all-NFL
1985 - Pro Football Writers: 1st team all-NFL
1985 - Newspaper Ent. Assoc.: 1st team all-NFL
1985 - Sporting News: 1st team all-NFL

Pro Bowls

1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992

1st-team All-Pro

1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1991

Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1998

No

Im gonna have to disagree Rage, in this respect your way wrong heh.

[Darkmoone]

Ill go a step further, for this imaginary size difference.

Chicago Bears

DT
Richard Dent
Height: 6-5 Weight: 265

Dan Hampton
Height: 6-5 Weight: 264

William Perry
Height: 6-2 Weight: 335 <-- yea that's tiny

Steve McMichael
Height: 6-2 Weight: 270

LB
Wilber Marshall
Height: 6-1 Weight: 231

Mike Singletary
Height: 6-0 Weight: 230

Otis Wilson
Height: 6-2 Weight: 227


Lets see ill compare it to todays best defense for the moment this year the NY Giants.

Giants

DT
Mathias Kiwanuka
Height: 6-5 Weight: 265

Justin Tuck
Height: 6-5 Weight: 274

Fred Robbins
Height: 6-4 Weight: 317


LB
Antonio Pierce
Height: 6-1 Weight: 238

Gerris Wilkinson
Height: 6-3 Weight: 231

Danny Clark
Height: 6-2 Weight: 245

Size difference?

[Darkmoone]

3 steps further!

1990 Dallas Cowboys
Roster
Head Coach: Jimmy Johnson
QB Troy Aikman
RB Emmitt Smith

Week 8 Oct 28 L 21-20 vs Philadelphia Eagles
Week 16 Dec 23 L 17-3 at Philadelphia Eagles

1990 Philadelphia Eagles
Roster
Head Coach: Buddy Ryan
QB Randall Cunningham
RB Thomas Sanders

[Darkmoone]

Best NFL Teams of All-Time

Sports illustrated

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1144891/1/8/index.htm

ESPN
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/football/teams/greatest.html
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/readers/greatestNFL.html

top 10 site
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/top-nfl-teams-of-all-time.asp

ok im done

Even some raghead dude knows!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU4_R3Y-AeA

[Angelic]

ok im done



Promise :)

[SharkTank]

I'd go with the cowboys since most of the guys on the Bears would be almost 60 years old by now, plus Walter Payton is dead so they wouldnt have him to run the ball, and I dont think they make those shades that McMahon wears anymore so he'd be fucked. The cowboys would have a much younger and more importantly, alive, team only in their 40's and 50's.

[Dethode]

i'd go with the cowboys since most of the guys on the bears would be almost 60 years old by now, plus walter payton is dead so they wouldnt have him to run the ball, and i dont think they make those shades that mcmahon wears anymore so he'd be fucked. The cowboys would have a much younger and more importantly, alive, team only in their 40's and 50's.

lol